Booby trapped ammo?

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Booby trapped ammo?

Postby zackattack » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:03 am

A couple months ago a buddy of mine and his wife lived in a bad neighborhood. One day when they were gone their house was ransacked the assholes who did it took his ps3,airsoft guns, one or two of his real guns and 1000 rounds of 9mm fmj. It took local Nashville Police 4 FUCKING HOURS TO RESPOND!!!! He is a retired Airforce Combat Controller and is somebody I would never mess with. After he told me this we joked about it and I mentioned that when you live in a place like that you need to replace the powder in some of your ammo for just this occasion so when the assholes decide to use it you get the final fuck you. I joked and told him he should put Magnesium or white phosphorus as a replacement for the powder and that it would have made a robbery very interesting.

In my joking I had an idea if it would work could you booby trap ammo like this? it may have use in a zpaw although you are wasting potentially needed ammo would it work?
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby Bob » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:44 am

Many years ago before most of you were born I flew with guns.
My baggage got to my destination an hour before me.
It sat going round and round on the luggage thing till someone realized no one was going to claim the gun case and they left with it.
My suitcase was left alone.
I never saw those guns again and it took the fracking airline months to pay off.
I had packed handloaded and match ammunition in the gun case.

After that I considered creating some elder son ammunition.
But you must keep in mind that it would be seen as a booby trap and one could possibly be put in jail for it.
Because of that I never did it.
Don't do it, they will get off with a wrist slap and you will go to jail.

It would be a simple matter for a handloader to create something like this but trust me you will go to jail for it.
As much as you might want to do it don't.
You will go to jail for creating a man trap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney
and not just here
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/ ... /s327.html

Here are a couple of links about the military using them you might find interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Eldest_Son
http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/ ... ide-a-gun/
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby zackattack » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:49 am

I'm not planning on doing it just wanted to know if it would work. Thanks for the links Bob.
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby Bob » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:19 pm

Sure thing.
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby zackattack » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:23 pm

Would the primer in a shell ignite magnesium? And if so would magnesium do anything or just fizzle in the gun and make a jam?
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby UnderDude » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:34 pm

It might. Considering the temp magnesium burns at, it would melt through the brass and cause deep craters in the barrel. If left long enough it could burn completely through the barrel.
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby Bob » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:57 pm

You would be better off with a huge overcharge of super fast powder.
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby UnderDude » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:03 pm

Didn't some armies use a small charge of plastic explosive inside cartridges to discourage using certain plots of ammo way back when? I think I recall hearing stories like that.
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Re: Booby trapped ammo?

Postby Mrknot » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:14 pm

That would scare the heck out of me.
In order to make an effective ruse, you'd have to mix it in w/ your good ammo.
That said, it's more of a hazard than its worth...
If the dirtbags steal it, they're probably just going to end up selling it for crack, (or whatever drug the miscreants are doing these days), and some poor schmoe, (possibly "innocent"), is gonna get hurt...

I mean, I've bought boxed ammo at yard sales before...if one of those boxes contained the "loaded" rounds...I might not be typing this right now...

Better off buying a safe and keeping your ammo secure. If you're really that worried about it.
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